night scratching!!!!

[gingerbenn]

My daughter Tyla has had very mild eczema for roughly 3 years, mostly on her arms, knees and back of neck.
But within the last few month she has had x2 very bad breakouts, which have spread to her face and alot more of her body.

Our doctor refered us to a Dermatologist and also to an Allergy doctor for a basic allergy test.
Both Doctors were helpful to a degree, but not solving our main problem night scratching!!!!

Tyla was admitted to hospital on friday night, as our GP started to think her wounds from scratching where getting infected.
But luckily Tyla was allowed out saturday afternoon once she had a few doses of co-amoxiclav into her bloodstream.

At the moment Tyla has been given the following:

Ucerax (which is meant to be stronger piriton with a seditive in) But seems to act like Red Bull for Tyla so we have stopped using.
Co-amoxiclav (3x a day 5ml) Seems to be working and calming down her wounds from scratching.
Elocon Cream (very unsure this is doing anything)

Plus we use Aveeno bath cream & moisturiser which works very good with Tyla's skin.

But our main problem anything when Tyla is sleeping she can have anything from a few hours sleep to 4 hours sleep and suddenly wake up in
a scratching frenzy and we have no idea what is causing this. We are starting to stop giving her the Ucerax and also the Elocon cream before bed.

Has anyone else encountered night scratching problems??? Or even have an soloutions
As in the day Tyla is almost totally fine with her eczema.

She is wearing cotton PJ's and have just very thin blankets for her bed, so she is not get hot as such.
Any help would be greatful as its a nitemare to watch her scratch herself most nights.

[Becky Dennis]

Hi gingerbenn
I'm sorry to read Tyla is suffering with night scratching. It is so hard to watch them being so itchy.
Have you tried Dermasilk Pyjamas? We have found these really helpful. They keep the body cool and in turn this seems to help reduce the itch. I think they're great and i know many others on here think that too.

We use Alimemazine as a sedative anti itch medicine sometimes. I've also used Balneum Plus for the bath too (anti itch). Both these things were prescribed.

There is also wet wrapping/bandaging to help prevent damage from night scratching.

I'm sure others will have more suggestions too.

Hope this helps.
b

[Di]

HI GingerBenn

I am having the same problem with my son. We have tried everythng from E45 to Prednisilone course of tablets for 2 weeks. The steriod course worked but obviously not viable for long term so back to square one.
As i also have a 10 month old, am finding night times a real struggle, so if anyone out there has any suggestions please HELP.

Comforting to know others out there are experiencing it too and not just me, and am not a bad mother cos my child has it so bad. x

[Traceye1]

Hi GingerBenn

i hope this helps a bit...we're in a similar situtation and would love some advice too. My son is 24 months and we're having lots of sleepless nights (and i'm due to have another baby in a week). We try wet wrapping with Tubefast clothing with sometimes helps. we've also tried Polaramine antihistamean for the night (with drowziness)... i seems to help a bit but he will still wake up a few times (he'll just be more sleepy and less itchy)- but it can be up to an hour each time.

mostly i just wanted to say that you're not alone in this situation even if sometimes it may seem that way in the middle of the night with a very itchy child

Tracey

[yorkie2703]

Hi
It's horrid to see our children suffer.
Like your daughter my daughter use to come alive at night and scratch herself to bits.
One night I went into her room and there seemed to be blood everywhere. She must have been at it for hours before she disturbed us.

We tired for ages to work out what was making her seem worse at night. We changed all her bedding to 100% cotton allergy/Dust mite free, putting wooden flooring in her room, Air purifier; I even use to steam her room before bedtime.
We also bought 100% cotton PJs that cost quite a bit of money but when we put her in them she was worse. It was like her skin couldn’t breath? (Even though when you read anything to do with 100% cotton its meant to be breathable)

Pirton never seemed to have any effect on her, we were even told to increase her dose at bedtime but it had a reverse effect. We now use Cetirizine, which seems to work well.

We have had allergy tests done on her and have found she has a delayed reaction to lots of foods. – She also has grass & tree allergies, which I can’t do much about.

My GP prescribed Dermasilk Pyjamas which do help. Also we are using tubi garments at the moment which her body seems to get on with.

At the moment at bedtime we use Pimecrolimus 1% Cream / Mometasone Furoate (Elocon) 0.1% Oint / followed by Alveeno then into Tubi Garment - Leggings/Top

How old is your daughter?

Has she had any test done yet? –

Before we had the blood and skin prick tests done I researched for months regarding food and allergies and triggers what a minefield that is.
There was so much about dairy and eggs and even talking to people that had or has allergies or intolerances to Eggs or Dairy. So I had my mind made up I was going to change my daughter’s diets with or without my doctor’s help.
But when we finally got her blood test results back it was a little shocking.
She was showing high levels to Soya , wheat, peanuts, Grass and tree pollens.

I was very shocked as I have never given my daughter soya and if anything I was going to take her off dairy and eggs and put her on a Soya diet.
So when I got home I read all the labels in my cupboard and to my horror everything she was eating had soya in it. By the Wednesday I had changed her diet and read every food label before giving it to her to eat. She doesn’t have allergies to Diary but I have but her on organic Milk. – Reality soon kicked in as my first food shop with reading label took me 4 ½ hours. (Any excuse to have some me time even if it’s reading labels)

We are now 7months and we do have a few flare ups and we have had some more skin prick tests done which show she has allergies to Melon, Kiwi, lentils, some pulses but not baked beans thank goodness.

But she is so much better, her sleeping, her confidence (this is because she doesn’t look like a burnt child now) I took photos of her before I changed her diet and now she looks amazing so much more better. She has quite a restricted diet children’s birthday party and going out can seem hard work as we can’t go anywhere without a bag of stuff for her. She can’t have Ice cream, sandwiches, sausage rolls, sausages, Chocolate, Cakes, Biscuits, flavoured crisps. Because a lot of these foods have wheat, soya (Soya is used as a bulking agent to prolong the life of some food) I now try to bake my own at least I know what is in the stuff I am given her.

I hope this helps. I have learned and still learning with a few set backs.
Once you have your tests done you will know what direct to go next….
Good luck Fiona x

[gingerbenn]

Hi Fiona,
Thanks for your reply, my daughter Tyla is 4 years old.
We have had one lot of tests done but all that came up was allergy to dust mites, (tested for basic stuff, egg, wheat etc, 9 different ones in total)
but test seemed very basic eg basically droplets on to skin and small pin prick
to see if blood reacts to the stuff in the droplet and then waited 10mins and got told results.

I'd be interested to know what type of tests you had done for you daughter,
as i am so positive over the last week something food related is causing the eczema.

Also where did you get the Tubi Garments from?
We have tried the Dermasilk Pyjamas but Tyla was just pulling them up and scratching underneath them so pretty pointless.

We are off the doctors again tomorrow, to see if we can at least get something instead of pirton to help Tyla scratching problem at night.

Cheers for your help
Benn

Hi
It's horrid to see our children suffer.
Like your daughter my daughter use to come alive at night and scratch herself to bits.
One night I went into her room and there seemed to be blood everywhere. She must have been at it for hours before she disturbed us.

We tired for ages to work out what was making her seem worse at night. We changed all her bedding to 100% cotton allergy/Dust mite free, putting wooden flooring in her room, Air purifier; I even use to steam her room before bedtime.
We also bought 100% cotton PJs that cost quite a bit of money but when we put her in them she was worse. It was like her skin couldn’t breath? (Even though when you read anything to do with 100% cotton its meant to be breathable)

Pirton never seemed to have any effect on her, we were even told to increase her dose at bedtime but it had a reverse effect. We now use Cetirizine, which seems to work well.

We have had allergy tests done on her and have found she has a delayed reaction to lots of foods. – She also has grass & tree allergies, which I can’t do much about.

My GP prescribed Dermasilk Pyjamas which do help. Also we are using tubi garments at the moment which her body seems to get on with.

At the moment at bedtime we use Pimecrolimus 1% Cream / Mometasone Furoate (Elocon) 0.1% Oint / followed by Alveeno then into Tubi Garment - Leggings/Top

How old is your daughter?

Has she had any test done yet? –

Before we had the blood and skin prick tests done I researched for months regarding food and allergies and triggers what a minefield that is.
There was so much about dairy and eggs and even talking to people that had or has allergies or intolerances to Eggs or Dairy. So I had my mind made up I was going to change my daughter’s diets with or without my doctor’s help.
But when we finally got her blood test results back it was a little shocking.
She was showing high levels to Soya , wheat, peanuts, Grass and tree pollens.

I was very shocked as I have never given my daughter soya and if anything I was going to take her off dairy and eggs and put her on a Soya diet.
So when I got home I read all the labels in my cupboard and to my horror everything she was eating had soya in it. By the Wednesday I had changed her diet and read every food label before giving it to her to eat. She doesn’t have allergies to Diary but I have but her on organic Milk. – Reality soon kicked in as my first food shop with reading label took me 4 ½ hours. (Any excuse to have some me time even if it’s reading labels)

We are now 7months and we do have a few flare ups and we have had some more skin prick tests done which show she has allergies to Melon, Kiwi, lentils, some pulses but not baked beans thank goodness.

But she is so much better, her sleeping, her confidence (this is because she doesn’t look like a burnt child now) I took photos of her before I changed her diet and now she looks amazing so much more better. She has quite a restricted diet children’s birthday party and going out can seem hard work as we can’t go anywhere without a bag of stuff for her. She can’t have Ice cream, sandwiches, sausage rolls, sausages, Chocolate, Cakes, Biscuits, flavoured crisps. Because a lot of these foods have wheat, soya (Soya is used as a bulking agent to prolong the life of some food) I now try to bake my own at least I know what is in the stuff I am given her.

I hope this helps. I have learned and still learning with a few set backs.
Once you have your tests done you will know what direct to go next….
Good luck Fiona x

[Pencoll]

I have a 6 year old, I've tried most thing to help him, we take atarax at night and use vasaline or manuka honey on the itchy parts, with tuba grip over and tuba gloves. Sounds mad yes but it works and the honey heals any inflamed parts so quick most mornings the inflammation has gone.

[AnnaB]

Hi all
This is like reading about my own life. Both my children have suffered from eczema all their lives. My son had a egg allergy and my daughter a full dairy allergy, they have both out grown these now but the eczema remains.
Both have wet wraps which really sooth night itches, Derma silk suits are good to wear day or night under normal clothes, we get all of these on prescription.
Wet wrap mittens are good or cotton gloves, my children have over the years learnt to keep them on or put them on when relief is needed but for years I put tape around the glove(not on the skin) so they could not pull them off in their sleep. The skin can get used to the steroid creams so ask for another to use, we switch between Elocon and Metosyn when the skin is struggling to respond.

Also be aware that as the seasons change the skin flares and I have realised there is nothing we can do with that. I have had a lot of support from our hospital and am learning to work as a team with my children against the eczema rather than the approach of them with eczema and me tackling it.

Emollin spray is amazing and the kids beg for it, if only everything came in spray form, there is no need to rub or touch the skin, just spray and go. The kids love it and often it is the only cream they will agree to.

Anna

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Using clover honey for itching can be an effective natural remedy due to its anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties. However, it's essential to understand the cause of the itching and whether honey is a suitable treatment. Here's an overview of using clover honey for itching:

Causes of Itching
Itching can be caused by various factors including dry skin, eczema, allergic reactions, insect bites, and minor skin irritations. Identifying the cause is crucial before applying any home remedy.

Properties of Clover Honey

Antibacterial: Premium clover honey has natural antibacterial properties, which can help prevent infection in minor skin irritations or scratches.
Anti-inflammatory: The anti-inflammatory properties in honey can reduce redness and swelling, which can be beneficial in soothing itchy skin.
Moisturizing: Honey is a natural humectant, meaning it helps retain moisture in the skin, which can alleviate dryness and itching.

How to Use Clover Honey for Itching?

Clean the Area: Before applying honey, clean the affected area with mild soap and water to remove any irritants.
Apply Honey: Apply a thin layer of raw clover honey directly to the itchy area.
Leave it On: Let the honey sit for about 30 minutes. Its sticky nature forms a protective barrier and allows the skin to absorb its properties.
Rinse Off: After the time has elapsed, gently rinse off the honey with lukewarm water.

Precautions

Patch Test: If you're using honey for the first time on your skin, do a patch test to ensure you're not allergic to it.
Avoid Infants: Do not apply honey on the skin of infants under one year old due to the risk of botulism.
Severity of Condition: If the itching is due to a more severe skin condition, an allergic reaction, or if it's widespread and persistent, it's crucial to consult a healthcare professional before using honey or any home remedy.

[MissCandyGirl]

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